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Spiritleader Returns
(Planning on calling show soon; maybe tonight "last of August")
On a previous post, someone suggested "seek help"
Well! That's why I'm here - BECAUSE -
THE FUTURE IS HERE 
And we all need to go to work on it.
Check out post in general section "THE FUTURE HAS ARRIVED"
MANY OF YOU MAY NOT REALIZE IT BUT
Humanity is in a crisis unlike any we have a history of -
and it may take all of us to make the difference that needs to be made.
SO, this is an attempt to create a base for you to make that difference.
TO CLARIFY -
While we are all products of our own creation-
We are also the product of others -MEANING-
Singularity does not exist in our overall expression-
the singularity exist in the picture we are all on.
IN OTHER WORDS - WE'RE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER
-Please check other post especially "CONSTRUCTIVE DIALOGUE"

Constructive Dialogue

You could say Humanity is in desperate need for
Emergency CX development
That's why this is another attempt to develop a format for constructive feedback.

Let's get right to CX development -AND-
 give some insight into how 
WE CREATE REALITY.
Look at the Masters //--
It doesn't matter if they believed they lived in Heaven-
That to experience the sublime was a state of mind-
BECAUSE THEY WERE ALSO VICTUMS OF THE EXTERNAL
The internal only exist as long as its relevant to the external.
(Realize this needs clarifying--May later)

Now our reality is filled with more hate, anger, fear etc. -AND-
These feeling are feeding the chaos. 
That's the reason the natives are becoming uncontrollably restless.
Could go on and on 
But enough said here - Please check other postings - lets get to work

(abbreviated - futurenow)
display status: Rewrite

THE FUTURE HAS ARRIVED
(We still haven't really recognized our past or faced the future)

The Future is upon us
Events and circumstances has changed time and its past time we recognized that.

LETS START BY STATING THAT
Part of the homing in on our knowledge is the great medical experiment concluding anytime now
In other words -
Medicine will probably reach its discovery oriented plateau --
DURING THE FIRST DECADE OF THIS CENTURY (REAL SOON)

This will be a real eye opener,-
and if not suppressed by this CX structure- THE ESTABLISHMENT
It will tremendously assist in the Great Awakening.
It should expose the human creative forces, allowing Humanity to move into its Goded aspects
(NO ELABORATING ON THIS OR THE FOLLOWING - MAYBE IN A REWRITE)

TO BACK UP AND CONTINUE
The end of this century won't be like the end of the last century.
The conditions of the last century already set things up to make sure that won't happen.
IN OTHER WORDS WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER 100 YEARS
If we don't recognize that the future is upon us, the way we have been conscious could take us out.
Humanity just won't make it to the end of this century on its present path.
So, I'm pleading with my fellow Man to have a deeper understanding of what this vision is.
To become aware of how our survival is at stake.
Again - To make this long story short
The vision allows the full creative force of Human potentials to come forth-
WITHOUT SACRIFICING LIKE WE DID IN THE PAST. 

OLD POST

 	 Boiled Frogs
« on: August 09, 2006, 11:39:04 pm »
Wanted to modify more for clarity - but decided to leave much like the original
(frogs)
display status: Modified Original
About like it was before 2000

BOILED FROGS

Dedicated To You Because This Will Be Your Perspective
If you drop a frog in hot water it will jump out.
But if you put it in cold water and slowly raise the temperature, you can raise the temperature until its so hot the frog dies, essentially boiling the frog to death.
In order to give a complete perspective about humanity or consciousness in relation to the boiled frog analogy, this will be expanded on as time and other factors permit. -- (More about related boiled frog experiments also)
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Inserted message: No one ever picked up on this and I never expanded on cultural conditioning.
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RELATING BOILED FROGS TO CULTURAL CONDITIONING
All societies exist and are maintained because that's the way they are conditioned-
(everything is a product of consciousness development in one way or another)

SOCIETIES HAVE NO OTHER OPTIONS

The cultural conditions mold and displays what it is.
Societal problems have been and still are, the inability to understand their reflection well enough to see themselves.
They must not, because that's what holds cultural consciousness together-(allows cultures to be like they are).
You could relate the way we have been aware to the way non-human animals are aware of their reflections.
Perhaps that will change now and even if the overall human consciousness doesn't become aware "as this espouses",-
at least the group involved here will come to a different awareness that could be "comparatively speaking"-
related to a human cognizance of their reflections.

We die because of the wisdom of ignorance.
When we are no longer ignorant we do not die !??

Are we born into societies of cold water that (because of our cultural conditioning)-
prevent us from recognizing that we have been dropped into a hot pot ????

I thought I would start this page by prodding you so you can add to it.
The intent will be to make this a full-fledged article prompted by me and finished by you.
I'm sure there can be much wisdom added to this from the growing vast pool of the death throws of human ignorance.

(This can be your article because of your input)-possibly making it another Major Article
Is there a better way to expand Human understanding than coming up with your own revelations about existence?
Who knows! Maybe some revolutionary new concepts about consciousness will come up in the process.
FROGS RELATED UPDATE IN MODIFIED ORIGINAL PAGE NOT INCLUDE HERE

 MONEY-A Solution or a Problem
« on: August 10, 2006, 09:36:31 am »
	
MONEY 
A SOLUTION OR A PROBLEM
A quest to understand money beyond love or use of it

-(THE FOLLOWING DOES NOT APPLY TO PAST USE OF MONEY-
Its in recognition of how our use of it has changed)-

Most every way we have looked at money has been through jaded eyes -
The eyes of those that learn how to use it or put another way
THROUGH THE EYES OF THE BANKER
(They make their living selling money)
Question especially addressed to first time visitors
Although this may not be the best or proper way to ask this question, -
If money is the solution to our problems
Why does it seem like the more money we have the more problems we have --
And those that have no money think not having money is their problem - ??

Perhaps a better way to look at the free interprise system is -
ITS A CAPTIVATING ENTERPRISE SYSTEM
A greed based oriented way of looking at pushing what you want
A way of glorifying the good of what you are selling even if its no good.
LETS ASK ANOTHER QUESTION
Did the industrialization of civilization come about because of the use of money or human creativity -?
When it comes to conditions that serve the best of what we are -
Since money is nothing more than a type of multi level marketing scheme -
COULD IT BE MONEY IS THE PROBLEM
Could it be that it has hampered our advancement and now -
- STIFLING HUMAN CREATIVITY -
Would we be living in a better reality if we had found a way not to use it - ?/?
Suggest someone do a study of the role money plays in human values from another perspective
Take off the rose colored glasses and look at human interactions with and without money.
Perhaps revolutionary insights into human interactions will come to light.
This is another prod placed in Human consciousness similar to Boiled Frogs and Object Human.
Its another challenge to someone wanting to contribute to developing Human consciousness. Someone with Insights and ideas to help Humanity move forward.
-- Spiritleader --

 	 USE OF ANIMALS
« on: August 10, 2006, 07:07:44 pm »
	
(animals)
display status: Open Edit
elicit imput-make major article
On a slightly non related to this subject
Lets make something clear from the start
There's no need for killing in Heaven
The idea of Heaven here has nothing to do with death and dying
The Heaven on Earth Society is about life and living
Its not the happy hunting ground -- no more words now.


Its past time to become aware of our use of animals
WITHIN THE VISION
Revealing some of the last vestiges of Human Ignorance
Although this pertain to vegetarianism, that's not what its all about
When finished, Its intentions are more of a just the facts statment mostly about environmental conditions.
Hopefully it will get someone's attention like the other Human consciousness prods "boiled frogs, object human, and money -a solution or a problem -"
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ANIMALS
Within the natural order, everything balances out
But within the natural order, Imbalances occur
Everything changes and sometimes these changes include annihilation of species
That's part of the point made here
But beyond the scope of zeroing in on what this addresses
WHEN FINISHED THIS INTENDS TO BE A JUST THE FACTS REPORT-
ABOUT THE MASS PRODUCTION OF AND WAY WE USE ANIMALS
-(this has nothing to do with what some would call animal rights)-
Let's start again
There is a wide variety of animals
Some vegetarian and some meat eaters
And within this natural order there is no good or bad
There's nothing to criticise about their differences
Some Humans can and do live strictly as vegetarian or as meat eaters
Given the conditions, they thrive in every situation
So, in that respect, this is not about what's right or wrong regarding eating habits etc.
Now to zeroing in on the matter
In order to participate in some peoples long standing habits of eating meat -
We have already created conditions that diverge from the natural order because -
The mass production of meat has enabled a schism in our eating habits.
(Still figuring how to make a short statement to say it right)
MEANING - It takes far more to feed a cow than a person - AGAIN MEANING -
The acerage needed to feed a cow would feed far more than one person.
So, why feed something that you get less food from when human populations are exploding -
It makes no sense-!??
But that's just for starters
PROJECT THE WAY WE USE ANIMALS INTO THE FUTURE
How many pets do we need and how many animals do we need to eat--
and an even bigger question is how much will the environment sustain -??
Just think about how we have produced and consumed animals-
of the massive amount of energy used to feed them to become food and pets for us.
Just a little commons sense analysis of this should cause people to realize something needs to change.
AGAIN
To zero in on the massive production of meat does not give the full scope of this short take.
This is about how we produce millions of animals to eat and use as pets etc.
This production cannot keep up with our increased population
It will lead to problems producing diseases and who know what else until its too late.
In fact, because of our ignorance of the mass production of animals -
We may not even realize where the problems it causes are coming from.
Giving an insight into our present situation-
ITS ALREADY CAUSING PROBLEMS

If this is made into an article like it needs to be-
It will include Information on these problems. -
SO, THIS IS TO WAKE PEOPLE UP
TO GET THEM TO BECOME AWARE OF OUR USE OF ANIMALS.

 	 TO KNOW
« on: August 10, 2006, 10:00:41 pm »
	
TO KNOW
People had rather live in Hell and know where they are-
than live in Heaven and not know where they are.
(THE DESIGN OF THE HUMAN BRAIN IS TO KNOW)

So, If "To Know" is all that matters-
Don't you think its time -
HUMANITY QUESTIONED WHAT IT KNOWS  ?????

 	 THE GREATEST GENERATION
« on: August 14, 2006, 09:40:21 am »
	
Modified original -- Still needs rewrite
THE GREATEST GENERATION

Since I've been given this opportunity to express in ways many won't,-
I hope it is an accurate reflection of how you may come to see things —
In other words, -
it is my sincere desire to also speak or give words to what you would write or come to understand.

May it be a blessing to all of us who enter this grand bold new adventure into the future by reminiscing briefly about the past.
To look in reverence and humility at our past and know what we cannot adequately express in word except in poetic fashion.

Let's begin by talking about the past
Those of us who have hunted, fished and experienced the terrible ravages of war and other things like it,-
(the arena of things like war that causes hating hurting and suffering brought on by miserable conditions)
know there is much to life that can't be expressed in words.

That the sublime can be experienced in horrors such as war –
that being caught up in the power of certain conditions beyond your control can lead to a respect for life that's hard to describe.

And to live through unimaginable experiences and survive carries a weight that some find too much to bare.
But this too is a test of the determination to live in spite of everything.

So, To those that continue to survive "in spite of life giving them a bad deal or break",
you can take a sort of pride or satisfaction in not letting life's circumstances get the best of you.

Most of us come from a heritage of a hard life, ////----
out fathers and grandfathers of the past century only started to live life differently and not necessarily better.

Just look at what they had to endure,-
world wars and other conflicts that caused conditions that wouldn't be good in any sense of the word,-
and in a way, their fathers and grandfathers had an even harder life.

Almost all of them were caught up in the struggles of life !! -
They lived and survived fighting and taking the punches life threw at them.
In the midst of all this, they produced what history says to be the largest Human population Earth has ever known.

Their life all revolved around love and hate, joy and sorrow, they all felt the full range of emotions their reality placed them in.
This left some with no reason to live except their determination to.
It's much like a statement in a song that can't be simplified more "life is made for living".
To abbreviate,  in a way you could say --
No matter how much you try that's all you've had when life's finished.

To finish this matter and speak specifically about the previous century,-
let's acknowledge our past and make a statement about our Fathers and Gandfathers,
those that Tom classified or spoke of as the greatest generation. ///---

To those of us that grew up in the last century - I would like you to join me in remembrance of our time –
those of us that grew up sharing in the experiences of a hard life "to some extent", whether by choice or design.
(I realize it was also better- but some reading this that have never milked a cow or hoed corn might not understand)

NOW TO THE PUCH LINE OF THIS  TAKE ON THIS MATTER
I do not necessarily feel like Tom Brocaw in the respect,
that our fathers who fought the Second World War were the greatest generation.
Even though I could feel proud about that because my father was in the Second World War and received a Purple Heart.

BECAUSE - I do not believe heroism or courage "in that respect" is the direction to go as it has before.

I BELIEVE HISTORY WILL RECORD US AS THE GREATEST GENERATION
(those that fought for peace - those that moved beyond the warmongering fools)
because we will be the catalyst for the changes that really changed the fate of man.

--- AGAIN -- WE WILL BE THE GREATEST GENERATION ---
because we will be the one who refused to keep killing our fellow man, -
WE WILL BE THE ONES THAT LEARNED HOW TO LIVE IN PEACE.

We will truly stand out as those who no longer needed to study war
BECAUSE WE MOVED BEYOND WAR.
TO BE CONTINUED

 	 A New Quest
« on: August 12, 2006, 11:26:25 pm »
	
A New Quest

After looking at Human Interactions

It may be that the only way we can come together is by focusing on something greater than ourselves --
Or something that's like a mutual goal for everyone to work toward.
(INSERT - This should not be limited to the following but it is something to consider)
CONTINUING ----
Something greater than or beyond our beliefs, --
that goes beyond cultural standards that we create our beliefs from,-
like religion and politics that gives us our cultural norms.
One thing that comes to mind is,-
the environment that directly affects all of us on a basis beyond these cultural norms, ///---
Things like comets, hurricanes, earthquakes, earth shifts and cosmic events.
THAT WAY WE CHANGE FOCUS ON WHAT WE ARE UP AGAINST-

We all are aware of the forces that surround us but up to now we have had very little choice in doing anything about it.
Even now, there's still not much we can do to influence the cosmic picture we are only a tiny part of.
But we are gaining ground in our createve abilities,-
We may have come to a starting point in knowing how to move out of harms way in ways we couldn't even imagine  before.
IF WE EXPAND ON AND
make these creative abilities known to everyone-
Perhaps we can come together 
IN A QUEST THAT MOVES US BEYOND FIGHTING AMONG OURSLELVES.

TO BE ADDED TO EDITED AND CORRECTED AS TIME PERMITS

 	 THEY SAY
« on: August 15, 2006, 06:21:25 am »
	
display status:  Rewrite

THEY SAY
They say that the world was supposed to ends in 2000
They say that a cycle of sun flares come up every 11,500 years
They say that cycle of flares occurs again in 2012
They say a major shift in the Earth crust is overdue
They say the poles will shift then or when the flares strike
They say the world is coming to an end
That its the end of time

THEY SAY - THEY SAY - THEY SAY - THEY SAY - THEY SAY

AND WE ARE RUNNING AROUND FINDING THINGS TO FIGHT ABOUT
KILLING EACH OTHER
AND THE END OF OUR ENTIRE SPECIES COULD OCCUR ANYTIME
What kind of madness or sickness is this
Are we so deranged we cannot grasp our own existence -??
The story continues in these links -
FUTURE IS UPON US
Its a real wake up call to what this espouses
And to wake up to what you think of how you support reality
IN MY NAME

 	 Perceptions of Man
« on: August 16, 2006, 08:26:47 am »
	
Perceptions of Man
And Humanity in the wisdom of its ignorance --
Failed to recognize the wisdom --
Of those that would have advance Human conditions --
They insisted on living like they always had -
Even if it killed them --
AND IT DID

 	 STAND BY
« on: August 17, 2006, 07:45:25 am »
	
ABBREVIATE STAND BY
I STOOD BY - (End of -- Full version to be placed here soon)
What's worse is that by standing by -
I participated in making them worse.
NO MORE STADING BY
I will seek out any means possible to make a difference.
TO TRY AND IMPROVE HUMANITIES LOT IN LIFE
I won't watch the way humanity is treating itself without speaking out.
I WILL NO LONGER TOLERATE
Those that have led us down this path to self destruction--
I WILL NOT STAND BY AND WATCH WITHOUT ACTING

 	 Special Message From Spiritleader
« on: August 17, 2006, 03:59:56 pm »
	
Special Message
Don't mean the following exactly as written -BUT-
In order to abbreviate ------
Although I did very little investigation-
I realized I was entering a dense consciousness structure
And the question became
Do you save the world
ONE PERSON AT A TIME
OR
THE WHOLE WORLD AT ONE TIME -?????

We have entered a reality of unlimited possibilities-
A reality unlike any we have a historical record of.
A reality poised on the brink of Human Consciousness ///--
A brink with a base to leap into a reality so much better-
there's little to compare it to in this one.
AGAIN - TO ABBREVIATE WHAT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO REALLY DO THIS JUSTICE
Perhaps we now have a medium to accomplish the impossible --
THE POSSIBILITY OF BOTH QUESTIONS COMING TOGETHER.
-- Free talk live -- I've entered your back door --
Don't believe you really took time to read the Boiled Frogs email
http://www.heavenonearthsociety.com/main/files/2006/jul_06_email.htm

 	 TERRORIST - BE AFRAID
« on: August 16, 2006, 11:41:45 am »
	
TERRORIST - BE AFRAID - BE VERY AFRAID
May not have the spelling correct or said right-
but think it make a point
Hezbolia terrorist
Insurgent terrorist
Islamic terrorist
Other terrorist groups
too many to mention -BUT-

No Isralei terrorist
No Russian terrorist
No French terrorist
No Ameican terrorist
(Nothing to fear from these societies)
(Similar to not fearing getting killed from riding on a road)

Over 2500 soldiers killed in Iraq telling how terrible it is
Other similar casualities making headlines every day
and filling our heads with
   HOW TERRIBLE THE TERRORIST ARE
Practically nothing said about others killed in other situations
Thousands die on road every year but road and cars aren't terrible-??
(probably would have to go back to the 30 for less than 20,000)
ANYWAY BACK TO WHAT WE THINK OF AS TERRORISM
What are the  most terrible world forces /?
(WHAT DO YOU THINK THE STANDING ARMIES OF GOVERNMENT ARE)-
Who would you rather stand up against-
WHAT FORCE WOULD YOU HAVE COURAGE TO FACE ?????

BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE
DON'T YOU THINK ITS TIME TO QUESTION HOW
HUMANITY CONTINUES TO BE BRAINWASHED /??

HUMANITY FOR OUR SAKE
IF NOT GODS
WAKE UP

 	 Shadow
« on: August 12, 2006, 08:46:26 pm »
	
Shadow

The shadows of reality

Our society is getting sicker all the time

We continue to fill the environment with more stress, strain, confusion and disorientation

And it's more than the whole society getting the jitters because of terrorism etc.

THERE IS A WAY OUT

BUT IT'S NOT ANY KIND OF SHADOW GOVERNMENT

IN FACT YOU COULD SAY SHADOW TYPE GOVERNMENT'S ARE MAIN CONTRIBUTOR
(They support black ops type projects)

The shadow government of the United States is just a part of a larger picture

It really has to do with those that are attempting to control world conditions

Its extensive, and is far beyond this take on the matter

So, lets continue this by commenting on the American version and

Begin to learn more about how all these maligned paradigms are leading us down the road to self-destruct

(may be  continued in next take titled "shadow government" if this is extended)

 	 FREEDOM
« on: August 12, 2006, 08:26:29 pm »
	
FREEDOM
(needs rewrite but left like original - no time - too much to do)
In the name of freedom I come forth to protect you

TO MAINTAIN AND PROMOTE THE ESTABLISHED STRUCTURES

For your safety and security

We will impose restrictions laws rules and regulations that encompass every aspect of your life

We will make sure you do not have to worry about anything

We will give you an implanted ID so you won't need to carry cash or credit cards.

We will know where your are, so if you are in trouble you can get help immediately.

And you won’t have to worry about your parents with Alzheimer’s or children getting taken.

You won’t have to worry about getting robbed or laborous financial transactions to keep track of

You will be safer and securer than you ever imagined you would be

Because we will make sure you do according to the rules we establish

No longer will you think independently --- you will have to be politically correct in all your decisions

We will establish a system where there will be guidelines to all your behavioral actions and no one will escape the watchful eye to see if your behavior is in line with what we deem to be appropriate

You will be free to follow the rules as never before because you will be living in a completely controlled reality

Meaning, there will be no one that escapes the scrutiny of the camera and sensing devices installed to insure the regulated controlled life of everyone

AND DARKNESS INCREASINGLY SETTLES OVER HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS